KG: What does your husband think of the book? Has he read it yet? Is he allowed to?
KR: I will let him eventually. It’s me being weird, but it’s hard! You put yourself on a page and you’re wondering: Is someone going to judge me? Or are they going to read into this? Will they think it’s terrible and then not want to tell me? There’s so much vulnerability.
KG: It’s definitely weird. I remember the exact moment when I let my primary partner read my book. I was just so hyped-up and nervous. We’ve been together for more than ten years. We’ve shared everything. But there was something so raw and vulnerable about letting him read it. So I completely get that and I’m very, very careful about who I’ve let read it. I just let my parents read it because I wanted their help with the proofreading. But I was looking at their notes after, and I thought “Oh my God, my parents have read all of this.” They probably have so many questions. They’re probably wondering, like, what parts of this came from my life? I was a little mortified. But I think it’s almost the hardest to let the people who are closest to you read the story, not knowing what they’re going to take away from it. There’s so many things you can learn about a person from what they’ve written, far more than what they’ll probably say to you in a normal conversation.
KR: Yeah, for sure. I think I’m nervous for my sister to read it, because my book has a sister relationship in it. It’s very different than our relationship, but I think you take tiny little tidbits from your life, even if the characters are not based on anyone or real events or anything that’s happened to you. There are always little pieces that kind of find their way in. How much of your book is based on your life?
KG: I think a lot of it is based on moments in my life with my primary partner. We had a bit of a false start ourselves. We went out on two dates, and then I kinda ghosted him. I just didn’t think I could handle anything at that time in my life. So we did not see each other for more than a year. We finally reconnected when I wanted to return a DVD of his, and we had what we call our “second first date.” That’s when we start our anniversary from. We’ve always had a little bit of that second chance. A lot of the banter in the book is basically me imagining how we talk to each other. A lot of the locations are just places from my life. And a lot of the anecdotes are mine. Little moments of what it was like to be a single person and some of the bad, bad dating stories I had.
KR: I wish I wrote more in my twenties and included my terrible dating stories.
KG: Same.
KR: I used to write emails to my sister and my mom about my terrible dates, and I wish they still existed because, like, I could just write a whole short-story anthology about hilariously bad dates. But now they weave their way into my romances.
KG: Yeah, totally. It pays off later.
KR: In reading your book, it felt like you spent a lot of time in New York City, like it was a place you knew very well.
KG: Yeah, I spent most of my twenties in New York City. It’s definitely where I became an adult. Not that I really feel like a total adult, but it was many years of trying to date, moving from apartment to apartment, always trying to find a better deal and never having enough money, despite working seven days a week, because I mostly worked in museums and nonprofits. So much of this book is based on those memories. Speaking of which, as someone who wants to be Canadian and wishes she lived in Canada, I loved the setting in your book of Hamilton, Ontario, as well as Toronto, and the details you brought to life. As an American reader, it was all so delightful. As a Canadian author, did you ever feel pressure to set the book in America rather than Canada?
KR: I grew up in Hamilton, and it’s so nostalgic for me, so I wanted to honor that. It’s a place I love, and it felt like the right setting for the book. But it’s funny. I hang out with a lot of Canadian romance authors. And I think, for a while, there was pressure not to set books in Canada. But lately, that’s been changing. Like I have heard from some readers that it’s the reason they liked the book so much. Because it was Canadian but not a stereotypical portrayal of Canada with…I don’t know. Maple syrup.
KG: They’re not running a maple syrup farm.
KR: Exactly. Hamilton is a very urban city with amazing restaurants and antiques shops and record shops and occult shops, and all the cool clothing stores. I wanted to capture all of that. And the “Canadiana” is just kind of sprinkled in.
KG: Like curling! Is curling a typical recreational activity for you or…？